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Should Baron, Bishop, Judge and the other title words borne as names read as names outside a title phrase? (Baron Davis → title 'Baron', no given name) #913
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Baron Davis reads title 'Baron', family 'Davis', with no given name and no ambiguity reported. The same happens with every word below: when it opens a name, it is taken as the title and the given name is lost (Deacon Jones, Judge Smith, Lady Gaga, Marquis Johnson).
#894 built the mechanism that fixes this, rules/H9 (the title phrase). A title word with a given-name reading is a title only inside a title phrase, where a style or modifier before it, a title that attaches to it, or of after it keeps the title. Everywhere else it is a name word, reported as title-or-name where no comma marks the given name. Phase 2j then moved seventeen words through it, one batch at a time: wing, mahdi, bard, buddha, siddha, gyani, king, sultan, sultana, shaikh, prince, princess, and five spellings of sheikh (#896 through #912). Each batch gave the word a dated given reading, measured every local corpus, and recorded its cost in decisions/H9. #348 asked the design question and is closed; this issue holds the words that are left.
The words still read as titles
The table lists title words of three or more ASCII letters that, opening a name, are read as the title with no given name left (<Word> Johnson). Each has at least 1,000 US given-name births. Counts are from tools/name_usage.py --no-wikidata on 2026-10-27; SSA is a lower bound, since years under 5 births are not published.
| Title | SSA given births | Census 2010 surname bearers |
|---|---|---|
| marquis | 25,041 | 8,737 |
| queen | 16,123 | 18,557 |
| deacon | 11,570 | 3,322 |
| marquise | 10,995 | 106 |
| saint | 7,476 | 1,897 |
| bishop | 7,091 | 116,618 |
| baron | 7,059 | 16,308 |
| sailor | 4,290 | 2,412 |
| general | 4,025 | 778 |
| judge | 3,826 | 10,453 |
| majesty | 3,299 | under 100 |
| canon | 2,792 | 2,644 |
| chancellor | 2,648 | 4,147 |
| author | 2,173 | under 100 |
| sir | 2,172 | 245 |
| lady | 2,068 | 1,070 |
| pharaoh | 1,997 | 173 |
| empress | 1,753 | under 100 |
| ranger | 1,518 | 2,504 |
| colonel | 1,250 | 174 |
| burgess | 1,089 | 73,931 |
| lawyer | 1,021 | 4,112 |
royal,navy,rockandknowledgehave the counts too, but already read as given names when they open a name, so they are not listed.queenandsiraddress by the given name, so the word behind them becomes the given name and the family is lost instead (Queen Latifah→ title 'Queen', given 'Latifah').- Should a word that is both a title and a given name report an ambiguity? (
Baron Davis→ title 'Baron', no given name) #348's own examples have small counts:counthas 5 births,chief348, andhonnone, thoughhonhas 2,424 surname bearers.Count BasieandChief Keefare stage names, which birth records do not count.
The surname half, under family-first order
Under FAMILY_FIRST, the word opening a name is where the surname stands, so a title borne as a surname loses it: Graf Steffi reads title 'Graf', family 'Steffi', with no report. These titles have the most US surname bearers:
| Title | Census 2010 surname bearers | SSA given births |
|---|---|---|
| knight | 136,713 | 934 |
| bishop | 116,618 | 7,091 |
| burgess | 73,931 | 1,089 |
| pope | 63,881 | 89 |
| ritter | 33,252 | 122 |
| lord | 23,405 | 678 |
| priest | 14,915 | 561 |
| graf | 13,301 | under 5 a year |
| herzog | 11,146 | under 5 a year |
decisions/salutation-titles kept graf, greve and knight as titles on purpose, reasoning that the title claim acts only in front, where these surnames are rarely written. Under a family-first order, the front is exactly where they are written.
Questions
- Which words move, and in what order? A word moves by gaining a given reading, as in phase 2j, and the counts above are where a batch starts. Some may be birth-record curiosities rather than names in use, to be checked by reading the bearers:
author,lawyer,majestyandsailor. - Does a word with low birth counts but well-known bearers under stage names (
countfor Count Basie,chieffor Chief Keef) move? - Should the surname half get a mechanism of its own, such as a family reading that makes a title phrase-only under a family-first order? Or should it wait for the packs (Vocabulary model and language packs (tracking) #747), where the reading order is declared?
dukeis not title vocabulary, soDuke of Wellingtongives given 'Duke of Wellington'. Shouldduke, and the other excluded peerage wordsearlanddon, come in as phrase-only titles, asdeandid in Read a title that is also a given name as a title only inside a title phrase (#752, phase 2i) #894?
To recompute the first table:
uv run python -c "from nameparser import Lexicon; print('\n'.join(sorted(w for w in Lexicon.default().titles if w.isascii() and w.isalpha() and len(w) > 2)))" | xargs uv run python tools/name_usage.py --no-wikidata --json
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